Michael E. Cohen digs deeper into some of the concepts in his new Take Control book, Apple Interface Mysteries in the second half of our conversation. Again, he draws on past experience to explain how some of the interface elements we all know came about, and why they aren’t always as intuitive as we would like. Be sure to watch past the end credits for some bonus material that might just give you a new perspective on interfaces and how to learn them. This edition of MacVoices is sponsored by Smile, the makers of PDFpen and PDFpenPro, PDFpen for iPad, PDFpen for iPhone, PDFpen Scan+, as well as TextExpander for Mac and TextExpander for iPhone and iPad, as well as the new TextExpander for Windows. Great software to help you get more done. Show Notes: Chuck Joiner is the producer and host of MacVoices. You can catch up with what he's doing on Twitter, Facebook, and LinkedIn. Subscribe to the show: iTunes: - Audio in iTunes - Video in iTunes - HD Video in iTunes Subscribe manually via iTunes or any podcatcher: - Audio: - Video: Donate to MacVoices via Paypal or become a MacVoices Patron. Guests: Michael E. Cohen has worked as a teacher, a programmer, a Web designer, a multimedia producer, and a certified usability analyst. He's the author or co-author of several books, including Take Control of Pages, and Take Control of PDFpen, and can be reached on Twitter as @lymond.